Talking to Change: An MI Podcast

Talking to ChangeTalking To Change: A Motivational Interviewing Podcast, hosted by Glenn Hinds and Sebastian Kaplan, is a series of conversations exploring Motivational Interviewing (MI) and its influence on supporting individuals and groups as they make positive health and lifestyle changes. Guests from across the world discuss their special interest in the research, practice and learning of MI along with its place across health, social care, education and criminal justice.

About the Hosts

Glenn Hinds is a registered counselor living in Derry, N. Ireland. He worked as a drug therapist and senior social work practitioner in mental health and alcohol and drug services from 1990 until 2008, when he created Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.He has been a member of the International Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2003.

Sebastian G. Kaplan, PhD, is an associate professor in the Departments of Psychiatry (Child and Adolescent Section) and Family and Community Medicine at the Wake Forest University School of Medicine in Winston-Salem, NC, USA. Sebastian has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2008. He provides training and consultation in MI for a variety of regional and national audiences. 

 

Episode 20: MI When Working with People with Psychosis, with Dr. Rory Allott

Dr. Rory Allott, a clinical psychologist working part-time in the National Health Services, joins Glenn and Sebastian to talk about the use of MI when working with people who have a diagnosis of psychosis. Dr. Allott provides an overview of his work with people with psychosis, and talks about approaches to working with this population that involve empathy, patience, offering choice, and the power of a “kind face.”.

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Episode 19: The Role of Feedback in MI, with Denise Walker, PhD

Denise Walker, PhD, a licensed clinical psychologist, Research Associate Professor at the University of Washington, and Director of the Innovative Programs Research Group joins the podcast to talk about Motivational Enhancement Therapy (MET) and the role of feedback, as well as findings from the Teen Marijuana Check-Up program.

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Episode 18: MI with People Who Have Sexually Abused, with David Prescott

David Prescott, Clinical Services Development Director for the Becket Family of Services, joins the podcast to talk about the use of motivational interviewing with people who have sexually abused, resisting the “righting reflex,” stretching the limits of compassion, moving “upstream” from behavior, understanding without collusion, and the SOAP approach (Stable, Occupied, Accountable, Plan).

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Episode 17: MI for Multimorbidity, with Kylie McKenzie, MAPS, FCCLP

Kylie McKenzie, MAPS, FCCLP, a clinical psychologist from Melbourne, Australia, joins Glenn and Sebastian to talk about the challenge of having and treating multiple chronic conditions, the meaning of the term “patient-centered,” the continuum of MI skills in practice, and her research on improving depressive symptoms in people with multimorbidity as well as understanding MI from the clinician’s perspective.

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Episode 16: MI in Leadership and Organizations (MILO), with Fredrik Eliasson

Fredrik Eliasson, a social worker with more than 20 years’ experience in management and organizations, joins the podcast to talk about MI as “a way of doing the work that I’m doing,” shifting workplace culture, psychological safety in the workplace, affirmations in strength-based leadership, and upcoming research on engagement in the workplace.

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Episode 15: MI in Health Care, with Dr. Damara Gutnick

Dr. Damara Gutnick, MD joins the podcast to talk about MI in health care. Dr. Gutnick is the medical director of the Montefiore Hudson Valley Collaborative in New York; Associate Professor in the departments of departments of Epidemiology and Population Health, Family Medicine, & Psychiatry and Behavioral Health at the Albert Einstein School of Medicine; and Director of Quality and Research at the non-profit Centre for Collaboration, Motivation & Innovation. In this episode, she talks about preventing burnout, using a “sprinkling” of MI in 7-9 minutes, change talk and the stages of change model, self-compassion, and whole person health.

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Episode 14: MI in Sports and Performance Settings, with Dr. Jeff Breckon

Dr. Jeff Breckon, Head of Research in the Academy of Sport and Physical Activity at Sheffield Hallam University, joins the podcast to talk about using MI to create a different culture in sport, challenges and opportunities for MI in elite sport, athlete mental health, and whole systems approaches.

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Episode 13: MI with CBT and Health Behaviour Change with Adolescents, with Dr. Sylvie Naar

Dr. Sylvie Naar, Distinguished Endowed Professor in the College of Medicine’s department of Behavioural Sciences and Social Medicine at Florida State University, joins the podcast to talk about crossing cultural boundaries, her research career integrating MI in treatment of pediatric HIV, diabetes and obesity; implementation science in Florida, how CBT can inform MI practice, and training and implementation of MI in agencies.

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Episode 12: The Engaging Process, Enhancing Autonomy Support, and Self-Esteem in MI, with Alan Zuckoff, PhD

Dr. Allan Zuckoff, Vice President for Clinical Program Development at Vital Decisions, talks with Glenn and Sebastian about the engaging process, markers of engagement, the pressure clients feel to change, the balance between autonomy support and directionality, engagement as a form of intimacy, and the role of self-esteem in MI.

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Episode 11: Teaching and Learning MI, with David Rosengren, PhD

David Rosengren, PhD, President and CEO of the Prevention Research Institute in Kentucky, USA, joins the podcast to talk about his book, “Building Motivational Interviewing Skills: A Practitioner Workbook,” developing a personalized training style, mastery vs. fluency, the growth mindset, and positive psychology and grit.

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Episode 10: Positive Affirmations in MI, with Tim Apodaca, PhD

In this episode, Tim Apodaca, PhD, licensed psychologist and associate professor of pediatrics at the University of Missouri-Kansas City, talks about the difference between affirmation and praise, genuine affirmations with case discussion, eliciting goals and values, research on the connection between affirmations and change talk, the importance of curiosity, and research on “envisioning the future” with clients.

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Episode 9: MI and Positive Psychology, with Majella Greene

In this episode, Majella Green, a registered social worker with master’s degrees in applied positive psychology and social work policy and research, joins the podcast from London, UK to talk about positive psychology, challenges in research, examples in practice, the importance of nonverbal communication, and trauma-informed practice and practitioner burnout.

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Episode 8: Trauma in Practice and MI, with Dee-Dee Stout

In this episode, Dee-Dee Stout, clinician, trainer, and author on the intersection between MI and trauma-informed practice, joins the podcast to talk about how not focusing on symptoms in favor of engagement with clients who have experienced trauma can make the work more effective and rewarding for the client and practitioner alike.

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Episode 7: The Development, Future, and Practice of MI with Stephen Rollnick, PhD

In this episode, Steve Rollnick, the co-founder of Motivational Interviewing, describes the development and future direction of MI and explores his journey with Bill Miller in translating MI from a world of specialist psychology to one of everyday practice.

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Episode 6: Change Talk (Client Language in Helping Conversations) with Theresa Moyers, PhD

In this episode, Theresa Moyers, PhD, associate professor of psychology at the University of New Mexico, Albuquerque, shares her ideas with Glenn and Sebastian on the importance of change talk within MI, based on her extensive experiences as a clinician and researcher on the treatment of addictive behaviors. Topics include what change talk is and why it matters, sustain talk, talking one's self into change, the cilnician as influencer, and client language within an empathic relationship.

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Episode 5: Carl Rogers and Person-Centered Helping

In this episode of Talking to Change, Chris Wagner, PhD, associate professor, department vice-chair, and licensed clinical psychologist in the department of rehabilitation counseling at Virginia Commonwealth University in Richmond, Virginia shares his insights into the work of Carl Rogers and how his theories and method of client-centered counseling helped shape the practice of MI.

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Episode 4: Motivational Interviewing & Compassion, with Stan Steindl, PhD

In this episode of Talking to Change, Glenn and Sebastian welcome Stan Steindl, PhD. Dr. Steindl discusses the bidirectional relationship between compassion and MI, specifically how compassion is a key element of the MI spirit and how MI style conversations can help guide someone towards a more compassionate view of themselves or others, which can also help bring about a host of benefits to one’s health.

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Episode 3: The Four Processes

In this episode, Glenn and Sebastian focus on the four processes of Motivational Interviewing (MI). The four processes are Engage, Focus, Evoke & Plan. Sebastian and Glenn also demonstrate an MI conversation centered on smoking.

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Episode 2: The Core Skills

In this episode, Glenn and Sebastian focus on the core skills of Motivational Interviewing (MI), often presented as the acronym OARS. The core skills are Open-Ended Questions, Affirmations, Reflections, and Summaries.

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Episode 1: The Spirit of Motivational Interviewing

In the first episode the podcast, Glenn and Sebastian introduce themselves and discuss their hopes for the podcast. They also provide an overview of the Motivational Interviewing (MI) Spirit, which consists of four guiding elements that all MI practitioners strive to uphold when engaging in MI conversations with clients: Partnership, Acceptance, Compassion, and Evocation.

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